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Autor: Adam W\u00e1gner
Fotografie: Veronika Semjanov\u00e1
Korekt\u00fara: Erika Rati\u010d\u00e1kov\u00e1<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Prv\u00fdm hos\u0165om <\/strong>na\u0161ej s\u00e9rie diskusi\u00ed sa stal J\u00e1n \u010eurin\u00edk, zn\u00e1my najm\u00e4 pod pseudonymom V3tt3rg1z (Vetergiz). Diskusia vznikla na podnet pr\u00e1ce zo \u0160tudentskej vedeckej a odbornej konferencie zameranej na m\u00e9my v\u202fruskom a\u202fslovenskom prostred\u00ed, v\u202fktorej sa J\u00e1n opisuje ako prominentn\u00e1 fig\u00fara slovenskej m\u00e9movej sc\u00e9ny, predov\u0161etk\u00fdm v\u010faka kreat\u00edvnym hr\u00e1m so slovami. Dorazil k\u202fn\u00e1m a\u017e z\u202fTrnavy, na \u010do v\u202fs\u00favislosti so svoj\u00edm pr\u00edzvukom a\u202fartikul\u00e1ciou s\u00e1m upozornil: \u201eVyjadrujem sa zle, ale je to autentick\u00e9<\/em>.\u201c V\u202fhektickom svete sa r\u00e1d odreaguje pri p\u00edsan\u00ed alebo\u202fu\u017e spom\u00ednan\u00fdch m\u00e9moch a pr\u00e1ve o\u202fjeho ceste k\u202fp\u00edsaniu a osobitom \u0161t\u00fdle tvorby sme ho 9.\u202fapr\u00edla\u202f2025 vyspovedali v\u202fkn\u00edhkupectve Artforum.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Internetov\u00e9 za\u010diatky: od Trumpa k Bi\u010danovi<\/strong> <\/h3>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n
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Vetergizove za\u010diatky sa od jeho s\u00fa\u010dasnej situ\u00e1cie nem\u00e1lo odli\u0161ovali. Priznal, \u017ee prv\u00e9 pr\u00edspevky sa niesli hlavne v\u202fpolitickom duchu. P\u00edsal sa toti\u017e rok 2015 a\u202fDonald Trump sa chystal na post prezidenta USA. J\u00e1nov de\u0148 vtedy vyzeral ve\u013emi jednoducho: vstal, \u0161estn\u00e1s\u0165 hod\u00edn sa roz\u010du\u013eoval, po nam\u00e1havom dni si na osem hod\u00edn zasl\u00fa\u017eene \u013eahol do postele a\u202fn\u00e1sledne v\u0161etko zopakoval. Po\u010diatky jeho tvorby sa tak vyzna\u010dovali ostros\u0165ou. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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V\u010faka internetu sa mu podarilo spoji\u0165 s\u202fna\u0161imi severn\u00fdmi bratmi Poliakmi, na\u202fktor\u00fdch kult\u00faru a\u202ffilmy vo svojej tvorbe odkazuje dodnes. Po\u010das\u202frovnak\u00e9ho obdobia za\u010dal pod pseudonymom V3tt3rg1z tvori\u0165 m\u00e9my na Facebook. Prezradil, \u017ee jeho komplikovan\u00e1 prez\u00fdvka je v\u202fskuto\u010dnosti slovo poch\u00e1dzaj\u00face z\u202fhardrockovej piesne, ktor\u00e9 sa stalo obe\u0165ou trendu gamifik\u00e1cie \u2013 pointa spo\u010d\u00edva vo v\u00fdmene p\u00edsmen za \u010d\u00edslice, ktor\u00e9 sa graficky podobaj\u00fa na zamenen\u00e9 p\u00edsmen\u00e1. Len\u017ee trendy sa postupne menili (meno v\u0161ak nie), a\u202ftak prim\u00e1rnu platformu vystriedal Instagram, kde ho objavilo najviac \u013eud\u00ed. Popul\u00e1rnou sa stala najm\u00e4\u202forigin\u00e1lna profilov\u00e1 fotka, ktor\u00fa mo\u017eno ozna\u010di\u0165 za jeho druh\u00fa internetov\u00fa tv\u00e1r. Ide o\u202fpostavu s\u202fmenom Vulpes Inculta z\u202fhry Fallout: New Vegas<\/em>, av\u0161ak pod p\u00e1skou, ktor\u00fa m\u00e1 postava cez o\u010di, sa skr\u00fdva zn\u00e1ma osobnos\u0165 slovensk\u00e9ho \u0161oubiznisu: Andrej Bi\u010dan. J\u00e1novi sa Bi\u010dan sp\u00e1jal s\u202fhrami od \u010dias, ke\u010f v\u202ftelev\u00edzii vysielali rel\u00e1ciu Maxihra<\/em>, a preto bol jeho p\u00f4vodn\u00fd z\u00e1mer Bi\u010dana pravidelne \u201eprezlieka\u0165\u201c za r\u00f4zne in\u00e9 postavy. Z n\u00e1padu v\u0161ak postupne upustil, ale Andrej Bi\u010danculta ostal ikonickou s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou jeho digit\u00e1lnej identity. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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J\u00e1n a literat\u00fara: shitposter spisovate\u013e<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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Literat\u00fara pre J\u00e1na bola aj bude sp\u00f4sob, ako sa odreagova\u0165. Cez po\u013esk\u00fa kult\u00faru sa dopracoval k\u202fSapkowsk\u00e9mu, ale paradoxne sa mu najviac p\u00e1\u010dia pr\u00e1ve diela, ktor\u00e9 nepoch\u00e1dzaj\u00fa zo s\u00e9rie Zakl\u00edna\u010d<\/em>. \u010co sa t\u00fdka\u202fanglick\u00fdch autorov, pochva\u013eoval si diela Douglasa Adamsa \u010di\u202fTerryho Pratchetta. Osobitne spomenul aj dielo Barry Trotter<\/em>, v\u010faka ktor\u00e9mu dodnes ob\u013eubuje par\u00f3diu a absurdnos\u0165. Z\u202frovnak\u00e9ho d\u00f4vodu v\u0161ak nie je ve\u013ek\u00fdm fan\u00fa\u0161ikom ruskej literat\u00fary, predov\u0161etk\u00fdm klasikov, ako napr\u00edklad Dostojevsk\u00e9ho. J\u00e1n spom\u00ednal, \u017ee hoci sa denne stret\u00e1va s\u202famerick\u00fdmi re\u00e1liami, predsa len m\u00e1 bli\u017e\u0161ie k mentalite a\u202fhumoru Poliakov.  <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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J\u00e1nov popis osobnosti si l\u00e1skou k\u202fliterat\u00fare vysl\u00fa\u017eil \u010fal\u0161ie S \u2013 u\u017e ne\u0161lo iba o\u202fsamozvan\u00e9ho shitpostera, ale aj spisovate\u013ea. Priznal sa, \u017ee najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed probl\u00e9m mu rob\u00ed tieto dve osobnosti oddeli\u0165: \u201eNiekedy nap\u00ed\u0161em cel\u00fa stranu a\u202fuvedom\u00edm si, \u017ee nep\u00ed\u0161em na svoju m\u00e9m str\u00e1nku.\u201c<\/em> Jeho tvorba sa vyzna\u010duje e\u0161te jedn\u00fdm \u0161pecifick\u00fdm tr\u00f3pom, ktor\u00fd naz\u00fdva metafrustr\u00e1cie, teda dlh\u00e9 \u00favahy oxymoronick\u00e9ho charakteru. J\u00e1n sa s\u202fnami podelil, \u017ee dok\u00e1\u017ee nap\u00edsa\u0165 dve strany, v\u202fktor\u00fdch neskonale miluje a z\u00e1rove\u0148 z\u202fdu\u0161e nen\u00e1vid\u00ed vlakov\u00fa dopravu. Dozvedeli sme sa aj to, ak\u00fa hudbu pri p\u00edsan\u00ed po\u010d\u00fava \u2013 a po odpovedi hudba z\u202fhry Skyrim<\/em> sme mali na konte \u010fal\u0161iu S-kov\u00fa odpove\u010f. So \u0161tipkou vlastnej originality a\u202fs\u00fdtou d\u00e1vkou in\u0161pir\u00e1cie sa pok\u00fa\u0161al vytvori\u0165 diela s esenciou literat\u00fary, ktor\u00e1 ho in\u0161pirovala, ale aj s d\u00e1vkou slovenskosti. Rozhodol sa preto upriami\u0165 pozornos\u0165 na t\u00fa najprest\u00ed\u017enej\u0161iu cenu, teda na Martinus Cenu Fant\u00e1zie. Trvalo to p\u00e4\u0165 rokov, ale v\u202froku 2022 sa mu podarilo dosiahnu\u0165 prvenstvo s\u202fpoviedkou Zatraten\u00ed na mori. <\/em>Do tejto poviedky s\u00edce stato\u010dne zab\u0155dali referencie jeho alter ega, ale bola tak\u00e1 dobr\u00e1, \u017ee si z\u00edskala porotu. J\u00e1n samotn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh ve\u013emi neodha\u013eoval, vyjadril sa najm\u00e4 k\u202fhlavnej \u0161trukt\u00fare a prezradil, \u017ee skrz pr\u00edbeh chcel prim\u00e1rne prekvapi\u0165 odpove\u010fou na dve z\u00e1sadn\u00e9 ot\u00e1zky, ktor\u00e9 \u010ditate\u013eovi napadn\u00fa: S\u00fa na\u0161i hrdinovia naozaj straten\u00ed?<\/em> a\u202fKto s\u00fa na\u0161i hrdinovia?<\/em> Poviedka je verejne dostupn\u00e1, preto vrelo odpor\u00fa\u010dame pre\u010d\u00edta\u0165 si ju. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Tento \u00faspech J\u00e1novi dodal trochu smelosti. Zistili sme, \u017ee dokonca pracuje na rom\u00e1ne, ktor\u00fd pl\u00e1nuje vyda\u0165, a\u202fjeho origin\u00e1lny humor v\u202f\u0148om ur\u010dite ch\u00fdba\u0165 nebude. Dej sa bude odohr\u00e1va\u0165, samozrejme, na slovenskej p\u00f4de, hoci viac ako pred tis\u00edc rokmi. Postavy pr\u00edbehu u\u017e boli nazna\u010den\u00e9 v\u202fjednom z\u202fm\u00e9mov. J\u00e1n prezradil, \u017ee p\u00f4jde o\u202fpr\u00edbeh z\u202f\u010dias Sv\u00e4topluka a o\u202fhon za tis\u00edcro\u010dnou v\u010delou. \u010co je v\u0161ak tis\u00edcro\u010dn\u00e1 v\u010dela, sa dozvieme, a\u017e ke\u010f dielo uzrie svetlo sveta. D\u00e1tum vydania e\u0161te nie je presn\u00fd, v\u0161etko sa pohybuje organicky a\u202fiba z\u202fpera J\u00e1na. Vyslovil toti\u017eto svoju nechu\u0165 pre editorov a\u202fv\u0161etk\u00fdm vrelo odporu\u010dil, aby sa neb\u00e1li prija\u0165 rady druh\u00fdch, ale ak by n\u00e1m mali by\u0165 pr\u00edli\u0161 proti srsti, treba ich rad\u0161ej ignorova\u0165. T\u00e1to rada zo\u017eala ve\u013ek\u00fd \u00faspech, aj ke\u010f na \u00fakor potenci\u00e1lneho ne\u0161\u0165astia akademick\u00fdch pracovn\u00edkov v\u202f\u010dase odovzd\u00e1vania z\u00e1vere\u010dn\u00fdch pr\u00e1c. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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J\u00e1n hovoril aj o\u202fpotrebe v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ieho mno\u017estva literat\u00fary so slovenskou kult\u00farou. Nep\u00e1\u010di sa mu, \u017ee ve\u013ea slovensk\u00fdch kn\u00edh nie je zasaden\u00fdch v\u202fslovenskom prostred\u00ed: \u201eAk si budem chcie\u0165 pre\u010d\u00edta\u0165 knihu, ktorej dej sa odohr\u00e1va v\u202fAmerike, pre\u010d\u00edtam si tak\u00fa, ktor\u00fa nap\u00edsal Ameri\u010dan.\u201c<\/em> Podotkol, \u017ee aj ke\u010f existuj\u00fa fantasy a\u202fsci-fi diela od Slov\u00e1kov o\u202fSlovensku, nie v\u0161etky s\u00fa hodn\u00e9 \u010d\u00edtania. Preberali sme aj jeho n\u00e1zory na problematiku od steampunkov\u00e9ho J\u00e1no\u0161\u00edka a\u017e po po\u010d\u00edta\u010dov\u00e9 hry a pr\u00e1ve na jednu z\u202fnich pouk\u00e1zal ako na v\u00fdborn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh, ktor\u00fd pracuje so slovensk\u00fdmi re\u00e1liami a z\u00e1rove\u0148 funguje aj pre zahrani\u010dn\u00e9ho hr\u00e1\u010da: \u201eFelvid\u00e9k je skvel\u00fd pr\u00edklad pr\u00edbehu, ktor\u00fd je z\u00e1bavn\u00fd aj bez toho, aby ste re\u00e1lie poznali. Teda nie je zasaden\u00fd v\u202fprostred\u00ed Slovenska len preto, aby sme mali pr\u00edbeh na\u202fSlovensku. Ke\u010f si hru zahr\u00e1 Slov\u00e1k, bude ho to bavi\u0165 takisto, ako by to bavilo nejak\u00e9ho cudzinca.\u201c<\/em>  <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Jazyky a\u202fpreklady<\/strong> <\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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Po\u010das debaty sme nesmeli vynecha\u0165 ani preklad. J\u00e1n uviedol, \u017ee s\u202fjazykmi a\u202fprekladmi m\u00e1 kol\u00edsav\u00fd vz\u0165ah. Prekvapilo n\u00e1s, \u017ee napriek obratn\u00fdm lingvistick\u00fdm schopnostiam preklad ne\u0161tudoval. Priznal, \u017ee o\u202f\u0161t\u00fadium filol\u00f3gie \u2013 konkr\u00e9tne n\u00f3rskeho jazyka \u2013 sa pok\u00fasil, ale prij\u00edmacie sk\u00fa\u0161ky mu \u00faplne nevy\u0161li, preto\u017ee obsahovali inform\u00e1cie z\u202fplaten\u00e9ho pr\u00edpravn\u00e9ho kurzu, ktor\u00e9ho sa nez\u00fa\u010dastnil. Jeho l\u00e1ska k\u202fjazykom sa napriek tomu neprelomila a\u202fvo vo\u013enom \u010dase sa im venuje doteraz, aj ke\u010f sk\u00f4r na teoretickej rovine: \u201eM\u00e1m ve\u013emi r\u00e1d jazyky, ale prizn\u00e1m sa, \u017ee ma viac bav\u00ed u\u010di\u0165 sa o\u202fjazykoch, ako u\u010di\u0165 sa jazyky.\u201c<\/em> J\u00e1n n\u00e1m povedal nie\u010do aj o\u202fsvojich ob\u013e\u00faben\u00fdch prekladate\u013eoch. Vychv\u00e1lil najm\u00e4 preklady Karola Chmela, ale ve\u013emi sa mu p\u00e1\u010dil aj preklad Barryho Trottera<\/em> od O\u013egy Hlav\u00e1\u010dovej, ba\u202fdokonca dodal, \u017ee ho preklad bavil viac ako origin\u00e1l. Na\u010dali sme tie\u017e t\u00e9mu vulgarizmov (na\u0161a moder\u00e1torka sa im venuje v\u202fr\u00e1mci svojich akademick\u00fdch sk\u00faman\u00ed), pri ktorej J\u00e1n op\u00e4\u0165 pochv\u00e1lil preklad O\u013egy Hlav\u00e1\u010dovej: \u201ePam\u00e4t\u00e1m si jednu fr\u00e1zu zo slovensk\u00e9ho prekladu \u2013 hovadsky debiln\u00fd. Je \u00fa\u017easn\u00e1, pou\u017e\u00edvam ju dodnes.\u201c<\/em> Na margo prekladu vulgarizmov v\u0161ak nepadli iba vr\u00facne slov\u00e1. J\u00e1na prekvapilo, \u017ee existuje odpor\u00fa\u010danie vulgarizmy zjem\u0148ova\u0165, \u010do pod\u013ea neho nielen pokazilo autentickos\u0165 mnoh\u00fdch diel, ale aj odklonilo hlavne mlad\u00fdch \u010ditate\u013eov i div\u00e1kov od slovensk\u00e9ho prekladu a\u202fdabingu. Neobi\u0161li sme ani t\u00e9mu prekladu dialektov a\u202fich postupn\u00e9 vytr\u00e1canie sa. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Z\u00e1vere\u010dn\u00e9 kolo ot\u00e1zok<\/strong> <\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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Na z\u00e1ver sa rozpr\u00fadila v\u00e1\u0161niv\u00e1 debata o\u202fr\u00f4znych s\u00fa\u0165a\u017eiach a\u202fot\u00e1zke, \u010di sa neoplat\u00ed posiela\u0165 pr\u00edbehy aj do in\u00fdch s\u00fa\u0165a\u017e\u00ed. J\u00e1novi \u0161lo \u00fadajne sk\u00f4r o\u202fmeno, ktor\u00e9 Martinus m\u00e1, a\u202ffakt, \u017ee sa jeho poviedka objavila v\u202fzborn\u00edku. \u010co sa t\u00fdka hodnotenia s\u00fa\u0165a\u017e\u00ed, J\u00e1n sa vyjadril, \u017ee s\u202fporotcami je to jedna ve\u013ek\u00e1 ruleta: niekedy s\u00fa schopn\u00ed oddeli\u0165 subjekt\u00edvne n\u00e1zory od hodnotenia a\u202finokedy zas nie. V\u0161etk\u00fdch z\u00fa\u010dastnen\u00fdch v\u0161ak podporil s\u202fmy\u0161lienkou, \u017ee nech u\u017e \u010dlovek sk\u00fa\u0161a ak\u00fako\u013evek s\u00fa\u0165a\u017e, za pokus nikdy ni\u010d ned\u00e1. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Okrem in\u00e9ho sa vynorila aj ot\u00e1zka na J\u00e1novu m\u00e9mov\u00fa tvorbu. Ist\u00fd \u010das be\u017eal segment Hardcore Heraldika<\/em>, v\u202fktorom J\u00e1n popisoval r\u00f4zne zauj\u00edmav\u00e9 slovensk\u00e9 erby. Prezradil, \u017ee medzi jeho ob\u013e\u00faben\u00e9 patr\u00ed star\u00fd trnavsk\u00fd erb a\u202ferb obce Bu\u010dany. Po ot\u00e1zke z\u202fpublika nazna\u010dil, \u017ee by sme mohli za\u017ei\u0165 jeho n\u00e1vrat. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Samotn\u00e1 debata sa nemohla zakon\u010di\u0165 na viac vetergizovskej n\u00f4te \u2013 spomenuli sme jeden z\u202fjeho blogov\u00fdch pr\u00edspevkov, kde sa zveril, \u017ee jeho pr\u00edbehy, ktor\u00e9 maj\u00fa d\u013a\u017ekou v\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed potenci\u00e1l ako jeho shitposty, sa nakoniec rozpadn\u00fa ako stol\u00edk z\u202fJysku. Av\u0161ak na ot\u00e1zku, \u010di u\u017e funk\u010dn\u00fd stol\u00edk z\u202fJysku svoj\u00edm nov\u00fdm rom\u00e1nom na\u0161iel, sa vyjadril, \u017ee si rad\u0161ej k\u00fapil stol\u00edk z\u202fIkey.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Debata sa teda zakon\u010dila post-ironick\u00fdm humorom, ktor\u00fd ho nakoniec tak presl\u00e1vil. \u010ci u\u017e sa J\u00e1na rozhodnete sledova\u0165 v\u202fkni\u017enej tvorbe, alebo na internete so\u202fslovn\u00fdmi hra\u010dkami a\u202fanekdotami, ver\u00edme, \u017ee v\u00e1s s\u202fn\u00edm \u010dak\u00e1 bohat\u00e1 kult\u00farna cesta. Sme naozaj v\u010fa\u010dn\u00ed, \u017ee sa rozhodol podeli\u0165 o\u202fsvoje sk\u00fasenosti. T\u00fdmto by sme sa mu radi po\u010fakovali a\u202fza\u017eelali ve\u013ea \u0161\u0165astia s p\u00edsan\u00edm rom\u00e1nu so Sv\u00e4toplukom. A ke\u010f bude ma\u0165 n\u00e1\u0161 slovensk\u00fd skyrimovsk\u00fd shitposterov\u00fd spisovate\u013e S\u202fp\u00e4\u0165, ur\u010dite ho na debatu zavol\u00e1me sp\u00e4\u0165. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Autor: Adam W\u00e1gnerFotografie: Veronika Semjanov\u00e1Korekt\u00fara: Erika Rati\u010d\u00e1kov\u00e1 Prv\u00fdm hos\u0165om na\u0161ej s\u00e9rie diskusi\u00ed sa stal J\u00e1n \u010eurin\u00edk, zn\u00e1my najm\u00e4 pod pseudonymom V3tt3rg1z (Vetergiz). Diskusia vznikla na podnet pr\u00e1ce zo \u0160tudentskej vedeckej a odbornej konferencie zameranej na m\u00e9my v\u202fruskom a\u202fslovenskom prostred\u00ed, v\u202fktorej sa J\u00e1n opisuje ako prominentn\u00e1 fig\u00fara slovenskej m\u00e9movej sc\u00e9ny, predov\u0161etk\u00fdm v\u010faka kreat\u00edvnym hr\u00e1m so slovami. 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